She was married five times and had many admirers. Her stormy, passionate and amorous nature, as Lyudmila Gurchenko admitted, required an outlet. And her numerous men were, in some way, temporary fireflies who flew towards the bright light to bask in its rays and show themselves.

Today it is no longer a secret to anyone that they often very skillfully used the popular fame of Lyudmila Markovna, extracting considerable benefit for their personal person. However, Gurchenko was never a whipping girl. She had a strong and domineering character, sometimes capricious to the point of indecency. And we must admit that life together with the star was far from glamorous.

Vasily Ordynsky

Eighteen-year-old Lucy's first lover was film director Vasily Ordynsky. Gurchenko met him in her second year at VGIK.

The romance that began between them lasted no more than a year. For Lyudmila, everything that happened remained behind the scenes, just a touch in the beginning biography of the actress. There is no doubt: there was a certain benefit in these relations.

Vasily Ordynsky even invited her to play the main role in one of his films. But members of the artistic council, respecting the honor and conscience of Soviet cinema, gave a complete refusal to the young artist. And yet the status of “passion” is quite famous director made itself known. Otherwise, she would not have been invited to the main role in Eldar Ryazanov’s film “ Carnival night", which brought Lyudmila Gurchenko phenomenal success and national recognition.

Boris Andronikashvili

Parting with Ordynsky was easy and painless. Soon on her life path met Boris Andronikashvili, a student of the screenwriting department of VGIK, a recognized idol of the girls of the course, with an irresistible appearance. Lyudmila, without knowing it herself, succumbed to the charms of a spectacular young man and married him. Boris became the first official husband Gurchenko and the father of the actress’s only daughter, Masha. After two years of married life together, they separated: “ice and fire” in the relationship turned out to be completely incompatible.

“FROM CHILDHOOD, I FALLED IN LOVE AT ALL CROSSROADS AND WITH ALL MOVIE CHARACTERS, IF “HE HAD TEETH LIKE CHALK, HAIRS LIKE BUDENAG.” IN SHORT, IN ALL “BLACK EAGLES”. I FELL IN LOVE ON EVERY FLOOR AT THE INSTITUTE. A HANDSOME MAN PASSED - THE HEART OF EK! BUT I WAS QUICKLY DISAPPOINTED. AND SUDDENLY FELL IN LOVE. FALL IN LOVE, REALLY.”

Lyudmila Gurchenko later recalled this marriage in her book “Lyusya, Stop!”

“With this young man, we approached each other as in the song: “You and I are two banks of the same river.” This can be seen from the bell tower today, but then...

Despite his refined appearance, from which you initially did not expect anything deep, he was a complex person with a set of extraordinary qualities - large and small. All his pockets were stuffed with rare books mixed with newspapers and magazines. I read everything in the world. He had a special sense of humor.

He believed that his personal criticism was the most accurate and original. He was distinguished by his musicality and masculine charm.”

“Everything about him was unattainable for me. And vice versa. He treated my profession with irony. He considered a musical comedy a spectacle far from art. Well, success with the public... When I delved into a sphere that was not “my” (I was interested in his complex screenwriting profession), I was always amazed at how much irony my “leap” from the frivolous, primitive life of an actor into his mysterious world aroused in him... he then talentedly knew how to live nearby, being only on his own shore. With incredible willpower we had to learn to live alone together... website www.wday.ru

Unexpected Lucy: rare photos Lyudmila Gurchenko

On November 12, the beloved actress would have turned 80 years old.

Her husband Sergei Senin shared rare archival footage with Antenna and Woman's Day.

1993, still from the film “Love”.

— This is our second with Lyusya collaboration, - says Sergei Senin. “The musical film was her long-time idea, and I found the opportunity to make it happen. The film was directed by Fyodor Sergeevich Bondarchuk. Lyusya always addressed Fedor by his first name and patronymic. The artists were Boris Krasnov and Valentin Yudashkin. Cameraman: Mikhail Mukasey. The television premiere took place in New Year's Eve. This is a benefit performance: songs and monologues.

Lyudmila Markovna dreamed of being a musical film actress. Her greatest pain and melancholy regarding her profession was that, unfortunately, in our country Lyusin’s musical talent was not in demand. She was calm about even her best dramatic roles, believing that any other good actress could have played them. Here's a musical! It was a dream...

Approximately 1939−1940.

— Lucy in kindergarten in Kharkov. “My first groom is Semochka,” she smiled, looking at the photo. Here he is pushing her on a sled.

Circa 1936. With dad Mark Gavrilovich.

— Her father was the most dear person to her. This photograph in his book “Lucy, Stop!” she signed it like this: “With early years I listened carefully to my father’s instructions.”

1953 Outlet.

— Kharkov girls’ school No. 6. There is now a class there that is dedicated to Lyudmila Markovna. In 2013, a memorial plaque was unveiled at the school (now a gymnasium). Sitting in front of Lyusya (she is on the far right) is Mila Gitstein, her closest friend. They were born on the same day and in the same year.

Late 1950s. With my friend Mila.

— These are houses in Kharkov. Photo taken by Lucy's dad. Now Mila lives in Chicago, but they walked through life side by side and always kept in touch.

// Photo: Sergey Ivanov/PhotoXPress.ru

On November 12, 2017, Lyudmila Gurchenko would have turned 82. The actress’s life ended suddenly in March 2011. The celebrity felt unwell and lost consciousness. Doctors who arrived at the legendary actress’s home were unable to revive her. Lyudmila Markovna’s husband Sergei Senin shared his memories of her on the air of Boris Korchevnikov’s program “The Fate of a Man.”

Lyudmila Gurchenko had difficult relationship with her daughter Maria Koroleva. After the death of the actress, Senin also could not find common language with her heir. Some time ago, Lyudmila Markovna’s relatives shared her apartment on Trekhprudny Lane, but in the end, Senin and Koroleva still managed to overcome the contradictions that arose between them. Senin turned the place where the star lived into a museum in her memory.

Boris Korchevnikov asked Lyudmila Gurchenko’s husband to comment on the information about her feud with the heiress. Sergei Senin denied public speculation. The star’s husband believes that Lyudmila Markovna could have been annoyed by spiteful critics who deliberately “distorted” her relationship with a loved one.

“This is such a figure of speech - I was in conflict with my daughter. The fact is that Lyusya did not have a conflict with Masha, it cannot be called... What is a conflict? I see a kitchen, and people are standing there, angry and excited. It’s just that at one time Masha stopped communicating with her mother. So much has already been said about this. (...) Throughout this whole story, I couldn’t shake the feeling that she was a driven person. Maybe she was well manipulated by not very well-mannered, subtle and smart people. They brought this situation to what happened. It’s not Masha there, there are other people there,” Senin shared.

// Photo: frame from the program “The Fate of Man”

The man refused to name the specific names of those who quarreled between Gurchenko and his daughter. “They don’t deserve this,” he said. Now Senin is in good relations with the Queen.

“We closed all the issues in the way that I proposed at the very beginning. I came to the conclusion that Masha is very soft and kind person", the man said.

// Photo: frame from the “Tonight” program

Let us recall that the first meeting between Senin and Gurchenko took place in 1990. Lyudmila Markovna played in the film “Sex Tale,” which was produced by a company founded by Sergei and his friend. Then future husband the star was not free. After the divorce, Senin called him ex-wife Galina suggested holding Gurchenko’s tour in Israel. Sergei was happy, because he had a reason to talk with the artist.

Then the paths of the future spouses diverged. The reason for resuming communication was the idea for a film that came to Senin’s mind. He again contacted Lyudmila Markovna. She agreed without much hesitation. After some time, the colleagues began to live together, and a few years later they registered a relationship.

Komsomolskaya Pravda met with Lyudmila Markovna’s last husband, Sergei Senin, to talk about what this inimitable woman was like in everyday life.

“I was taken aback. Numb. Gave flowers"

“I couldn’t even imagine that we would be together,” admits Sergei Senin. - 1990... “I lived in dusty Odessa back then”... (Senin is an Odessa resident - Ed.), I dropped out of graduate school at the Construction Institute and plunged headlong into cinema. I opened a film company with a friend. And away we go! Experience - zero. Ambition is darkness! First works with the legendary Ephraim Sewela and Juliusz Machulski. These are truly the dashing 90s! Director from Moscow Elena Nikolaeva invites us to produce a film based on Nabokov’s story “The Fairy Tale”, in which she invites Lucy to play one of the main roles. Oh! It immediately flashes through my head - 1980, the magazine “Our Contemporary”. Circular hall of the construction institute. I don’t listen to the lecture - I read “My Adult Childhood.” I don't read - I swallow. Author - Lyudmila Gurchenko. Wow! I took a magazine issued for one day - there was a queue waiting! - with a great air of skepticism, and when I closed the last page, I discovered that I was sitting alone in a huge audience. No, not alone. With her. With the one that I will see with my own eyes for the first time 10 years later in Vilnius, in the pavilion of the Lithuanian Film Studio. We're filming "The Fairy Tale" there. Scene of Lucy and Sergei Zhigunov. I saw a woman of fantastic beauty. I was taken aback. Numb. Gave flowers. After filming, I was escorted to the hotel.

"Natural Romance"

- Were you still married then?

My wife emigrated with our daughter to Israel a year and a half earlier. For me, the issue of emigration was not an issue - impossible. I am one of those who loves their homeland.

We met Lyusya a year after the premiere of “Fairy Tale”, in 1992. I called - friends asked about her touring in Israel with a concert and our film. At the end of the conversation I got excited: “Let’s do something else together.” And I heard a laconic and simple answer: “Come, let’s talk.” We met. We discussed a program that later appeared on television called “Love.” Good name- Lucy suggested. I love. I love everything - dad, people, viewers-readers, life, dogs, profession, what was, what will be... But... I rang the doorbell - she opened - always looking great, luxurious, it took my breath away... And it seemed to me that there open door, there will be a thousand nannies, assistants, girlfriends and friends. Close people, in the end... No. I met a strong, powerful, not devastated, as Lyusya came up with in “Station for Two” - beautiful! - but a very lonely person.

“How did this all happen? What evenings? For three years I dreamed of you...” We walked with the dachshund Tuzik, talked, laughed, were sad, remembered (Lucy - always dad), had a delicious dinner at the House of Cinema restaurant. We supported each other. We really loved driving around Moscow at night in Lyusina’s Lada Nine. I went to Odessa for five days on business. It seemed like an eternity had passed. Came back... I think that's when everything happened. Lucy starred in one of her best, in my and not only my opinion, films - “Listen, Fellini”. Mosfilm. I know that she is in one of the dressing rooms. Found it. He opened the doors. For this reason, her hug when we met... She clung to me like a child. Like a woman. Trusting... I fell in love.

“Gymnastics is terrible for her”

- You have big difference at the age of 25 years...

We talked about it. Sometimes. But only with humor. I always felt older.

- How was your life structured?

Everyday life... Well, where can I get away from it... The principle was defined by Lyusya: the one on whom the well-being of the family depends today (financially, first of all), is outside of everyday life... When work brought dividends from my entrepreneurial business, Lyusya was a real housewife , wife and, as they call it there, the keeper of the family hearth. In the culinary arts she had a small range. But what she cooked was always exquisite. In oatmeal - a piece of dark chocolate, plum, banana, kiwi. The main thing is proportions. It turned out very tasty! Her signature salad is grated apple, carrots, raisins, banana, dried apricots, walnuts, sour cream. I loved to fry potatoes. I loved eclairs. I was always amazed: I just look at a bun and already feel like I’m getting better, but she could eat a dozen cakes - and nothing. This is from God, her dad was at the same weight all his life, and so was Lucy. No training. Gymnastics or exercises are terrible for her! Favorite mise-en-scène is lying down. That’s how I composed and fantasized. Role, music, movements, text. First in my head, then I took hold of the pen.

Survived the death of her grandson

- Were you with your wife when her grandson died? (Maria Borisovna’s son Mark Korolev died on December 18, 1998 from a drug overdose. - Ed.)

Lucy was in the hospital after a major operation. Sinusitis is a consequence of the profession. In general, fractures and sinusitis are occupational diseases of actors... It was December, I dropped by home. I heard a message on the answering machine: a young voice said that an accident had happened, Marik had died. Despite the doctors’ protests, Lyusya went with me to the Vagankovskoye cemetery, where Mark was buried. He often came to us. She loved him very much.

- Many people argue: were Lyudmila Gurchenko and Alla Pugacheva friends or rivals?

She had an excellent relationship with Alla, there were simply no close points of intersection. Only some individual works. The “Diva” video, in which Lucy starred, for example. Lucy and Alla are two cosmic figures who each lived on their own territory: Alla on the stage, Lucy in the cinema. Another question is that Lucy felt free on the stage, this was her second calling. But they were not friends, because this implies a closer relationship.

- Did you have a premonition on the last day of Lyudmila Markovna’s life?

That day started out great. In a dream, Lucy saw that she was walking - she had a broken leg. I woke up, got up and took a few steps...

Lucy was for me... When I leave, I will know that my life was not meaningless, because she was next to me.

BY THE WAY

Left over 200 outfits

In the time of Lyudmila Gurchenko there was no expression “style icon”. But that’s exactly what she was for viewers during the Soviet years.

Lucy added something of herself to all the dresses she bought, and the result was sparkle,” recalls Sergei Senin. - I could embroider it with beads, decorate it with feathers, insert lace. More than 200 hand-made Lyusya stage costumes, accessories, and objects now exist. All this will be on Trekhprudny - the world of Lyusin is preserved there, you will feel it.

Speaking about Lyudmila Gurchenko, a woman with a vivid biography, many remember not the roles she played, but the details of her personal life, numerous husbands, “family wars” with her daughter. 7 years have passed since the death of the star, and the fate of her inheritance still attracts attention.

Biography and career

The future star was born in Kharkov on November 12, 1935, and survived 2 years of occupation. After graduating from general education and music school, she entered VGIK on the first try. Lyudmila Gurchenko has been popular with the opposite sex since her youth, and at the dawn of her acting biography she already began collecting a collection of husbands.

By the time she received her first role, she had been married and divorced.

After the success of “Carnival Night” in 1956, Gurchenko was not soon able to go beyond the role of a vaudeville actress. She began to receive invitations to dramatic roles only after her 40th birthday.

Actress in the film "Carnival Night"

On the account of Lyudmila Markovna:

• one and a half hundred images embodied in cinema;
• two dozen roles played in 6 theaters;
• 17 music albums and 16 videos, including those filmed with the participation of other stars;
• participation in numerous television programs and non-fiction projects.

The actress and singer also tried her hand as a director, composer, and wrote 3 autobiographical books.

Personal life

Lyudmila Gurchenko's life was not only intense creative biography, but also personal life, " femme fatale“Changed 6 husbands, but gave birth to only one daughter. The first husband of the 18-year-old student was 30-year-old director Vasily Ordynsky. Rumor has it that Lucy married the director, hoping for roles in his films, but the calculation did not materialize, and a little over a year later the couple divorced.

Lyudmila Gurchenko and her first husband Vasily Ordynsky

Gurchenko fell in love with Boris Andronikashvili, who studied at VGIK as a screenwriter at first sight. In 1958, the aspiring actress received her diploma, got married a second time, and a year later became a mother. The marriage for love turned out to be not much stronger and longer lasting than the first one, concluded for convenience. Soon after the birth of his daughter, Boris lost interest in his wife, rumors began to spread about his infidelities, and the family that had existed for 2 years fell apart.

Gurchenko, focusing on her career, delegated the upbringing of her daughter to her mother.

2 years after the divorce, she met adopted son writer Alexander Fadeev. At the time of their meeting, Alexander Alexandrovich was playing in the theater and had not yet acted in films. By his standards, Lyudmila Gurchenko was a celebrity, and simply very attractive woman, and Fadeev tried to win her. The hasty third marriage lasted only 2 years; the actors did not have time to really get to know each other before the wedding, and family life turned into a series of disappointments.

Joseph Kobzon became the third legal husband of Lyudmila

Immediately began an affair with another admirer, then rising star stage by Joseph Kobzon. Gurchenko met her future fourth husband at a difficult stage in her biography. The actress complained that all the directors she approached in search of work perceived her as an easily accessible woman and responded with unambiguous offers. Kobzon in those years was not so famous as to contribute to the career of his beloved, but his moral support turned out to be very valuable.

It is interesting that the “two stars” got married 3 years after the start of the romance, and only because during Kobzon’s New Year’s tour, they refused to be accommodated in the same hotel room with Gurchenko (Soviet “shape of morality!”).

Fortunately, the head of the Samara registry office turned out to be a fan of both talents, and in urgently I painted them, despite the day off. The newly-made spouses were able to occupy one room legally.

The legal marriage lasted about as long as the premarital affair. Two bright creative personalities with complex characters were unable to start a family and separated in 1970. According to rumors, Kobzon had not officially divorced Lyudmila Gurchenko at the time of his marriage to Ninel Drizina, who gave birth to the singer’s two children. After breaking up another relationship, the 35-year-old actress swore off getting married again. But soon pianist Konstantin Kuperweis appeared in her life. The singer began an affair with a young accompanist; the 14-year age difference did not bother them.

Lyudmila Gurchenko and Konstantin Kuperweis

“Attempt number 5” turned out to be more successful. Gurchenko and Cooperweiss did not register their relationship, but civil marriage lived 18 years. Konstantin guessed desires and fulfilled the whims of his star wife, and she was sure that she had finally found her feminine happiness. Notification of availability common-law husband The second family turned out to be a blow for Lyudmila Markovna; in 1991 they separated.

Then Gurchenko, performer leading role in the film “Sex Tale”, she met 30-year-old producer Sergei Senin. At first, the actress did not even think about serious relationship with a man who was 2 years younger than her daughter. The situation was complicated by Senin’s wife and child. But at 93, he became Gurchenko’s sixth husband, and this marriage lasted until the star’s death in 2011. According to some reports, in 2010 she exchanged her husband for a young partner, handsome photographer Aslan Akhmadov. The rumors were fueled by a thematic photo shoot of Aslan and Lyudmila, based on the myth of Oedipus.

Lyudmila Gurchenko and Aslan Akhmadov

In the fall of 2010, 75-year-old Gurchenko announced her love in the show “Let Them Talk.” Around the same time, she was credited with an affair with her filming partner Maxim Averin (“Capercaillie”).

Conflict with daughter

The story about Lyudmila Gurchenko, her biography, personal life, husbands can be illustrated with numerous photographs where the star is captured in various stage images, in the company of her creative colleagues and beloved men. And here's her joint photos with a daughter - a rarity; Maria was deprived of the attention of her mother-actress from birth.

The girl did not take after her mother in either beauty or talent, and even in defiance of her, she tried to dress tastelessly and in every possible way emphasized her own unattractiveness. Because of the star's mother-in-law, Maria Borisovna's marriage to Alexander Korolev broke up, although over time they got back together.

Actress daughter

The actress, disappointed in her daughter, who became a grandmother at the age of 46, had high hopes for her grandson and granddaughter. But her grandson died of a drug overdose at the age of 16, and Lyudmila Markovna blamed her daughter for this, aggravating the existing conflict.

Mother and daughter stopped communicating 5 years before tragic death Mark Korolev. After another marriage star daughter her mother gave her only granddaughter an apartment in the capital. Elena Alexandrovna lived for another 6 years, but she announced her will during her lifetime, driving another wedge between Lyudmila and Maria. Lyudmila Gurchenko was indignant, saying that the apartment was bought with her money, and tried to challenge the will in court.

The actress's granddaughter looks very much like her star grandmother

Because of this conflict, Maria appeared in her mother's house only after her death, claiming her share of the inheritance.

Death and inheritance

After suffering a hip fracture and a major operation in February 2011, Lyudmila Markovna never had time to recover. On March 30, she died of heart failure due to thromboembolism.

According to Alexander Shirvindt, the eternally young star simply could not come to terms with the onset of old age and chose death over it. The posthumous makeup was created by Aslan Akhmadov, who during his lifetime was the actress’s personal makeup artist.

Lyudmila Markovna loved spectacular and feminine images

On April 2 it was held in last path. Contrary to at will, the actress was buried not on Vagankovsky, next to her parents and grandson, but on Novodevichy, next to other stars.

The heirs, a widower and a daughter, divided the property for 4 long years. Sergei wanted to keep his and Gurchenko’s shared apartment on Patriarch’s Street, planning to create a museum there. Maria was not delighted with this decision and demanded the 25% due to her by law. As a result of the agreement reached, she received in return a dacha in Novoglagolevo and substantial monetary compensation, as well as her mother’s valuables.

Sergei Senin and Gurchenko

By the way, the only real jewel in Gurchenko’s inheritance were diamond earrings, a gift from Baskov for his 70th birthday. Other jewelry – high-quality costume jewelry.

Wealth did not bring happiness to Maria Borisovna; in November 2017, she died of acute heart failure in the entrance of her own house, not having time to get to the hospital. In 2018, the share of Lyudmila Gurchenko’s inheritance, won by her daughter (about 20 million rubles), went to the granddaughter and great-granddaughter of the actress. And the best way to tell about the creative heritage of the People’s Artist is the Museum-Workshop, which was opened by a widower on the 80th anniversary of her birth.

On the eve of Lyudmila Markovna’s 80th birthday, Sergei Senin told Gordon Boulevard about why he turned an apartment in the center of Moscow into a museum, and he decided to wander around rented apartments. And also - how he blessed Yulia Peresild for the role of Gurchenko in the biopic, how he divided property with the actress’s daughter Masha, about cars, expensive jewelry, Lyudmila Markovna’s love for men gay and why Irina Bilyk refused to participate in the anniversary concert.

Photo: Felix Rosenstein / Gordon Boulevard

- Sergei Mikhailovich, in November Lyudmila Markovna would have turned 80 years old. How will you celebrate your birthday?

I don't know yet. I wouldn't want it to turn into food and drink. There are many options: from very modest to serious and large-scale... We’ll probably gather our closest friends and sit down. I would like music to sound this evening, Lucy’s songs. There was an idea to organize an exhibition in Moscow, but it hasn’t worked out yet. Today everything comes down to finances, and these are unrealistic amounts.

I know that a month before your birthday you are organizing a big anniversary concert dedicated to Lyudmila Markovna at the Kremlin Palace in Moscow. In this regard, due to the tense political situation in Kyiv, a big scandal recently broke out involving Irina Bilyk, who is on your list of invited artists. Will Irina take part in this concert?

Ira and I know each other very well, I actually invited her. I really wanted her to sing the romance “The Rosi Have Fallen to Mow” from the film “Roman and Francesca.” She liked the idea, but, as I understand it, some problems arose. I don’t really know what kind, I only heard rumors that she wouldn’t be able to participate. It is a pity that the times have come when politics interferes in everything. I really wanted this concert to have some kind of Ukrainian piece, because Lyudmila Markovna had a lot connected with Ukraine.

-Are you interested in what is happening with us now?

Well of course! Somewhat desperate and tragic situation. I myself am an Odessa resident, but I can’t come to Odessa - not because I’m afraid. The mood has gone. I don't look for those who are right or wrong. In such situations, everyone is always to blame. And here it is impossible to say who is more and who is less. We must believe that this will pass and everything will work out. But what is happening is unreal. I remember when Lyusya and I went to Kharkov together for the first time in 1993, she burst into tears at the border when she was asked to fill out customs declaration. How is it - she is going to her homeland, and then this... There were tears in her eyes. I can imagine what would happen to her now if she saw that her two beloved countries were in such a terrible situation...

The creative things I plan to do distract me from sad thoughts. We have been doing this concert for six months now, and I feel Lucy’s presence: her songs, her voice... In fact, she is the director and author of this evening

Lyudmila Gurchenko on the set of the film "Carnival Night". Photo: svalka24.beon.ru

I wanted to ask you about the upcoming concert. What is being prepared? It’s not easy to finance such a large project without sponsors...

All these creative things that I am now planning to do distract me from sad thoughts. We have been doing this concert for six months now, and I feel Lucy’s presence: her songs, her voice... In fact, she is the director and author of this evening. I didn’t invent anything - I just sat down, thought, remembered how it was with her... I knew her concerts well, she didn’t have random songs, everything was built from the first word to the final note. I was guided by this principle even now, realizing that she would have done this number like this. Perhaps I’m wrong somewhere, but on the whole I’m sure that I followed her prompts exactly.

Nobody helped us financially; we have a partner who supported and proposed the idea of ​​this project. These are our mutual friends and comrades-in-arms with Lyusya. I wrote a script, invited a good director and choreographer. The main thing that guided me was that I wanted to perform songs that Lyudmila Markovna herself composed, and those that are associated with her, but she is not their author, such as “Carnival Night”.

The vast majority of the artists I invited worked with her on stage and in films. These are those whom she treated with great respect and warmth or, like Zemfira, with undisguised delight. But the evening will not turn into “Song of the Year,” when the artists took the stage, sang and ran away. There is a dramatic basis. Despite the fact that this is a concert in memory of Luce, she will be present on stage and in the hall. The host will be Maxim Averin, and Lyusya will become his co-host. Everything is built in such a way that they will complement each other. A very good actress (I won’t reveal all the cards yet), she won’t be made up like Lucy, but will play her in those places that seemed very important to us, where we didn’t find required material and through this actress they restored how it could have been if Lucy herself had been here. In general, it should be interesting, as long as there is enough time to implement everything the way we want.

Lyudmila Markovna charged everyone with her irrepressible energy.

- Was the choice of songs by the artists unexpected for you?

Yes, everything was not easy. When inviting artists, I understood that many of them would agree to perform, but it was important for me to offer them a performance that, in my opinion, would fit with them, but, unfortunately, it did not always work out that way. As a result, we were faced with the following problem: Lucy had a large repertoire built for her, a huge acting component, and where it seemed to us that this song would be performed by one or another performer, it suddenly turned out that the artists themselves said that they could not do it to do... But we discussed everything in a friendly manner and came up with ideas. These will be new interpretations with new arrangements. Before this, no one had performed Lucina’s songs like this. For example, Zemfira will not re-sing anything - she will sing her hit “Do you want?”, because it has long been associated with Lyudmila Markovna, who wrote this song different options performed - both on stage, and for television programs, and in films, so everything came together naturally.

Was it ever that one of the artists asked for a fee for participation? As they say, friendship is friendship, but you always want to eat...

No, otherwise this concert would not have been possible at all. Everyone was very respectful and understanding, and there were no discussions about fees.

The things we have in our house were studied by specialists from the Stroganov Academy. About forty people took part in this. The collective doctoral or candidate's dissertation has definitely already been written there. I think Lucy would be amazed to learn about this

Lyudmila Gurchenko and Sergei Senin in their Moscow apartment. Photo: newsliga.ru

They say you want to open memorial museum in the apartment where they lived with Lyudmila Markovna for many years. How do you imagine this idea in reality?

I don’t want to call it a museum; a museum is something frozen. This will be a museum-workshop. The entire apartment is dedicated to this, because of this I was forced to rent a place for myself, because if I do this, it’s impossible to live there. So now I live outside the city - here fresh air, and the dogs are happy.

This matter is interesting to me, otherwise everything would lie like a dead weight and be quietly eaten by moths. Lucy left behind a colossal man-made legacy: costumes, accessories, jewelry, handbags, belts. There are more than 800 costumes alone. Exhibitions have already been held in Moscow, which lasted about a year, at the Sheremetev Palace in St. Petersburg, and recently an exhibition was held in Rostov. This happens all the time, and not because I try to organize it: the museums themselves turn to me.

So much - and how to store it? Restoring is a whole undertaking. Therefore, this idea was born - to open a museum. Five years have passed since Lucy passed away, but we are still finding some incredible things that even I might not have noticed, and now people who understand this are discovering some kind of deep meaning these things. Therefore, my new friends and I, and among them scientists, professors, academicians, felt that there was interest in this. It would be a pity if these things perish. No one makes the kind of dresses that Lucy herself made and designed herself today.

- How quickly did you decide to go through all her things?

In the first months after she left, I was in a state of complete stupidity. And suddenly I got a call from a Moscow gallery and museum, and that’s where it all started. The head of the costume shop came to my house and dry-cleaned every item, each now has its own trunk, everything is numbered, hanging on hangers. Everything in the house was photographed and studied. Specialists from the Stroganov Academy worked from different areas: some were engaged in finishing costumes, others - paraphernalia and accessories, others - Gzhel and ceramics. About forty people took part in this. The collective doctoral or candidate's dissertation has definitely already been written there. I think Lucy would be amazed to learn about this.

I began to understand this myself. And so you look - the fox and the fox are hanging, but it turns out there is no price for it - not in the sense that it costs a lot of money: it already has historical value. History - it also goes away. We also want to do an exhibition of black and white photographs, there are hundreds of thousands of them. In twenty years I haven’t been able to go through so many and now I continue, but not alone, thank God.

Lyudmila Markovna has repeatedly received the title of the most stylish actress. Photo from the personal archive of Lyudmila Gurchenko

- Does this mean that your living space will become a museum on a permanent basis?

No, for now there is a museum in the apartment out of necessity, because renting a room costs incredible money, but I am a stubborn and tenacious person, so my friends and I are promoting this, but for now everything will be in the apartment. Why a museum-workshop? Professionals and non-professionals, people who want to learn something, will come here. For example, good craftsmen will show you some kind of accessory that Lyudmila Markovna had and tell you how to make something with your own hands that is valuable today. And then life will show whether it will happen or not. But I really hope that everything will work out. Over time, perhaps, the city authorities will show interest in creating a room where they could create a full-fledged gallery.

Entry will be free, because it is intended primarily for those who are truly interested. There are already those who are ready to help; everything needs to be maintained and restored. We can say that these will be donations “from our own”.

From October 1 to October 15, Moscow will host an exhibition of dolls and angels that Lyudmila Markovna collected all her life.

More than twenty production centers approached me who wanted to make a film about Luce. I’ve seen TV series about Tolkunova, Pugacheva, but I’m generally silent about Zykina. And I understood that if I behaved categorically, it would end in the same way. So I met with everyone

Sergei Senin still does not take off his white gold ring with a sapphire, a gift from Lyudmila Markovna. Photo: Felix Rosenstein/Gordon Boulevard

- Your whole life still revolves around Lyudmila Markovna. What do you do for a living now?

I devoted three years to the Armen Dzhigarkhanyan Theater, now I work as an assistant to the artistic director of the theater. E. Vakhtangov Rimas Tuminas. This work is different, but it is also very difficult and takes a lot of time. Rimas is my old friend, with whom we have gone through a lot in work and in life. And I'm happy to work with him. This theater is number one today. There's a lot of interesting stuff there. True, this work is tearing me to pieces in connection with the upcoming concert and exhibition, but all people are understanding of my situation, so I think everything will be okay.

For lately Many biopics have been made about our contemporaries. I know that director Sergei Aldonin recently began filming the 16-episode film “Lyusya Gurchenko”. Did they ask you for permission?

About a year and a half or two ago, I received an endless stream of calls from various film companies and production centers who wanted to make a film about Lucy. In total, more than twenty applied. I understood that this was a very sensitive topic and that you couldn’t just say no over the phone. We are witnesses to what unscrupulous people do: they take history, change one letter in their last name, two in their first name, and do whatever they want. I saw this in the series about Valya Tolkunova, about Pugacheva, and I’m generally silent about Zykina. And I understood that if I behaved categorically, it would end in the same way. Therefore, I chose a different tactic: I decided that I needed to know everything from the inside, so I met with everyone and asked two questions: who plays Lyudmila Markovna and who plays her father. Because without Lucy’s dad, Mark Gavrilovich, it is impossible to create any story about Lucy. There was an incredible connection between them, and without him her whole life would be incomprehensible. As a result, what I heard from the visiting directors horrified me, but I didn’t show it. Sometimes I managed to disappear, someone still had to sharply refuse, some even began to scare me, they said that if you refuse, we will do like everyone else: we will change the names - and we will get a story about Luce, but you legally will not be able to show us no complaints.

Yulia Peresild will play Lyudmila Markovna in the film by Sergei Aldonin. Photo: videozal.su

Seryozha Aldonin (Lusya knew him; a good theater director, by the way) came to the meeting with a young producer. Both their eyes were shining, and I realized that they wanted to do a big, important thing. They called good artists: Lyudmila Markovna will be played by Yulia Peresild, who I like as an actress, Nikolai Dobrynin will play the father, the type is well chosen, and Nadya Mikhalkova will play Lucy’s mother in her youth. Great company.

But I had a condition that the film should be based on the book “My Adult Childhood.” This is the war, Kharkov, the corpses that Lyusya saw. It was at that time that such a phenomenon as Lyudmila Markovna Gurchenko was born.

In general, the guys took it seriously and after a while they sent us the script. I didn't like him. We met again, discussed everything, and they took a timeout for six months. Aldonin himself rewrote the script. The second version was already a good, serious work. In any case, I hope that the film will not be based on the yellow press. Moreover, we agreed that the period they would talk about would begin with her birth and end with 1983 - 1985. Then perestroika began. This time is closer to us - why film it when everything is on the Internet, newsreels and gossip.

Otherwise, I’m glad that the film fell into the hands of decent comrades, and I believe that it will be a clean job, but no one can say how talented it will be, we’ll see. I was only on set once.

- By the way, is it true that in Kharkov they will still name a street after Lyudmila Markovna?

I think that would be right. Kharkov should be proud that Lucy was born there. But there are laws according to which a street can only be named after ten years. In any case, no one contacted me. I remember the story of the monument that they wanted to erect to Lyusya in Kharkov, but then it was never erected. This situation exhausted her greatly. She knew nothing about it, but at that time some kind of strife began, everything fell on her poor head, and she had no idea what the monument was and what it was for.

Lucy never had an abundance of jewelry, everything was modest. I gave her antique rings with precious stones, she has always been interested in very expensive jewelry, but these are not simple trinkets. It happens that good jewelry costs more than jewelry.

Two stars - two bright stories. Barbara Brylska and Lyudmila Gurchenko. Photo: Alexander Lazarenko/Gordon Boulevard

- Not so long ago lawyer Yulia Kaygorodova, who helped you resolve conflicts over the division of property with Gurchenko’s daughter Masha, admitted that Lyudmila Markovna had almost no expensive jewelry - everything she wore was mostly good jewelry. How could this be?

Lucy never had an abundance of jewelry; everything was very modest. She loved antique jewelry. I gave her earrings and rings with precious and semi-precious stones. Dima Gordon once gave a very beautiful earrings with emeralds...

Lyudmila Gurchenko and Dmitry Gordon really had a long-term friendship. Photo: Felix Rosenstein / "Gordon Boulevard"

Lucy was also interested in very expensive jewelry, but these were not simple trinkets. It happens that good jewelry costs more than jewelry. There was such jewelry that you couldn’t find during the day. But she also added a lot to it herself, then it was generally an unreal, fantastic thing, but for those who understand, the rest don’t care.

Lyudmila Gurchenko’s daughter Maria made peace with Sergei Senin almost five years after her mother’s death. Photo: labs.exalead.com

And with Masha we decided all the matters; there were no trials. It was not my fault that we resolved them five years later, and resolved them the way I suggested at the very beginning. Quiet, calm, everyone is happy. Masha will be at the anniversary concert. Last year she and I were together in St. Petersburg for Lyudmila Markovna’s birthday, so everything is fine. We didn’t have any struggle for the apartment either. Masha had a dacha, I had an apartment. I paid her a decent amount as compensation for keeping Lucy's things to take care of the museum. Because if we started dividing the things that were left, we would go crazy. Our grandchildren would still be finishing these things. Masha understands that I am doing this purposefully. Besides, she has her own problems, children, grandchildren. But the fact that I am alive is a guarantee that these things will last at least for some decades to come, and then I don’t know what will happen. I don't think about any history in the future - I would just be incredibly sorry if it all disappeared. I know that the Hermitage is also showing interest in Lucy’s costumes self made, there are extraordinary things there!

Lucy always enjoyed performing in gay clubs, and she had many friends from this circle. We had normal relations with everyone. She considered these people the most appreciative audience

Lyudmila Markovna performing at a Kiev gay club. Alexey Panin threw himself at the actress’s feet. Photo: e-motion.tochka.net

I still remember one of Lyudmila Markovna’s last unofficial visits to Kyiv: she came to the opening of a gay club on Khreshchatyk. A small basement room, there were so many people that she had difficulty making her way to the stage, there was not enough air. And then I thought that at her age it was really possible to undertake such stress only for the sake of money. Has she needed them in recent years?

Lucy always enjoyed performing in such institutions, and she had many friends from this circle. We had normal relations with everyone. She considered these people the most appreciative audience. Starting from "Motley Twilight" she had some kind of premonition of something... Man best years I lived with downtime in my work, but here it was as if I wanted to make up for everything. I tried to stop this process, to streamline it, but I realized that it was pointless.

The last two years - 2010 and 2011 - have been real madness for her. But that's how it is acting life. If our actors of Soviet cinema were paid according to their talent and contribution, then one “Carnival Night” in America would be worth it! Take it off and live happily all your life. But we didn’t have that, so when it became possible to earn money, the strength was not the same and the demand was not the same, but she always had to overcome something in order to be at the top.

- Were you able to save some money or did you live there and invest it in your needs?

I can’t say that we earned crazy money - rather, it was normal. This allowed us not to deny ourselves anything, but also not to live in luxury. There was no extravagance because there was nothing to waste. We lived modestly, without frills, but we could easily travel abroad and change cars every two years. good brands. The apartment was in the center of Moscow, in the very best area, but more than modest - 120 meters. And also a very modest dacha. All this was quite enough for happy life and work.

I remember when tough times came, in 1998, we made the first original musical “The Bureau of Happiness”, the cast was more than a hundred people... Suddenly a default struck. I had to get my hard-earned money and invest in this business, otherwise it wouldn’t have worked. The same situation happened with “Motley Twilight” in 2008. We start filming, the state allocates 1 million rubles for the film, and this is at best the fourth part for a modest film. A crisis comes, the ruble falls - and we again sell something of our own, take it out of our bosoms and invest it in the project.

There is a vigil at Lucy's grave every weekend. I am calm because I myself have begun to visit less often, I don’t have enough time due to how busy I am now, but I know that there are reliable and devoted people there. Many people call them fans - this is probably true, because they have been on watch for five years now

Fans take turns cleaning the grave of Lyudmila Gurchenko at the Novodevichy Cemetery every weekend. Photo: kpmedia.ru

When Lyudmila Markovna passed away, a Russian tabloid published a photograph of her in a coffin. What was your reaction?

I saw this magazine! Someone slipped it under my door in my apartment. I felt a chill, but not because they published this photo. I just saw the lifeless Lucy again. And so - I don’t care about them. Journalists have brought so much trouble to us in life, I despise so many of them, they are simply nonhumans! How much dirt was poured on Lucy even after death! But I myself don’t read anything on purpose, unless it catches my eye without my desire. Many books have been written about her, most of them mediocre. The best one was written by journalist Valery Kichin, the book is simply amazing!

There are guys from Lyusina’s VKontakte group who help me take care of her grave and the grave of her parents, buried at the Vagankovskoye cemetery, where her grandson Mark also lies, they also take care of his grave. And at Novodevichy there is duty every weekend. I am calm because I myself have begun to visit less often, I don’t have enough time due to how busy I am now, but I know that there are reliable and devoted people there. Many people call them fans, and in a sense they really are fans, because for the past five years they have been keeping a kind of vigil, cleaning and wiping down the monument, throwing away withered flowers. They could mind their own business, but when they come there, it’s important to them. I thought - well, probably some kind of time will pass, as usually happens: at first everyone is nearby, and in the end there are two people left. But no, they still come every weekend and bring their children, I scold them for this, but I can’t do anything, I’m still grateful that they exist, without them it would be completely sad.

- Do you dream about Lyudmila Markovna, do you feel her presence?

Yes, I see her very often. IN last time I dreamed about it yesterday, but it’s related to the concert, when the balls are already moving behind the rollers. I always check everything through Lyusya and consult with her. For the first six months, not only did I not have dreams with her, I could not recall her face in my memory. This strange thing happened in my head. And then I dreamed, but I didn’t see her in the dream, I only knew that it was Lucy standing on the bridge, and there was no one there. Some kind of dream.

- How do you consult with her?

I sit down and imagine what she would say in this situation. Lucy always made wise decisions. Sometimes I categorically disagreed, and then after a while I realized how insightful, fair and wise she was, how accurately she assessed people, actions, actions. There was some wisdom in it. And it helps today. It happens that I can’t find the answer, it’s a hopeless situation, then I consult with her again.

They say that married people will be together in the next world. You had an official marriage, but you didn’t get married. Do you regret it now?

These are such complex things... I was recently tormented because I erected a monument on my grave, but there was no cross there.

In general, of course, I regret a lot... I behaved incorrectly, made me nervous, suffered, and was rude. When you live and work together, you don't notice many things. If I could return that time, I would be more attentive, I would forbid her to do any work in order to save strength and health, but that’s all in the past.

A wedding ring do you wear? In general, are there things given by Lyudmila Markovna that you never part with?

I took mine off, and now our two rings are together at home. And I wear a white gold ring with a sapphire. It is always with me. Lucy gave it to me in 1995, when we were in New York. It is not expensive, bought in a very good store on Fifth Avenue. AND pectoral cross XIX century, which she bought for me at the Izmailovsky vernissage in Moscow in 1993.

If I’m alone, that means I’ll be alone, not alone, but not alone. All the same, my attitude, memory and the twenty years that we lived with Lyusya will not disappear anywhere. This is definitely forever!

“I took off my wedding band, our two rings are now at home together.” Photo: donbass.ua

- But you admit that sooner or later you will arrange your life again?

Why make a wish? Probably... I can’t say no, that’s it, never. Life goes on in such a way that you make plans, and then bam - and everything turns upside down. As it will be, so it will be. If I’m alone, that means I’ll be alone, not alone, but not alone. I think this is normal. All the same, my attitude, memory and the twenty years that we lived with Lyusya will not disappear. This is definitely forever! And everything else is life, which requires something. It is very difficult to do things alone, for example, with everyday life, running a household and solving some primitive issues. Although I have a housekeeper who worked with us back under Luce. Now she comes less often because there is less work outside the city. But she is with me, helps, cleans. And my friends don’t leave me either.

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